I discuss the nature and experience of Chiron in astrology, from practical, experiential and spiritual perspectives.
This episode was published on Sept 22, 2026 at 12:26pm EDT.
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Episode transcript:
Greetings all! Welcome to Aquarian Diary. I’m your host, John Irving. It is September 22nd, 2026.
Okay, here I am. I have had this topic on my to-do list for like two or three years.
Now, I tend to have to be in the right mood, I find, to talk about something and to do a good job of it, right? And today, I want to talk about Chiron. And Chiron is unpleasant, right? So when are you going to be in the mood to talk about Chiron?
Anyway, today, I woke up and I watched something on YouTube that was very Chironic in an ironic way. Say that ten times quickly.
Plus, I have a couple personal transits going on, short ones, and not bad ones, but they are also Chironic in nature too.
And then I’m like, okay, I guess that’s a sign I need to do this.
Now, there’s another reason I need to do it as well. And that is because Chiron just retrograded back into Aries.
I’ll put the dates on the screen so I don’t have to repeat them all the time.
Chiron is a centaur which has a very elliptical orbit. Its orbit goes just on the inside of Saturn and then it orbits all the way outside around Uranus. And because of this very elliptical orbit, it can spend a lot more time in some signs than others.
And its orbital period is 50.71 years. So most people who reach adulthood are going to experience a complete orbit of Chiron around their natal chart and they will have a Chiron return at around 51 years old.
Chiron first entered Taurus on June 19th of 2026. It turned retrograde on August 3rd. It re-entered Aries on September 17th. It will turn direct on January 6th at about 26 degrees and 16 minutes of Aries and will re-enter Taurus more permanently on April 14th of 2027.
Chiron deals with our core wounding, and often this is linked to something that happens in our formative years when we are children. Depending on how it’s aspected it can be something that’s fairly traumatic even.
You know, we all have wounds, and we can heal our wounds, but we always have the scar, or it becomes part of us. In an ideal scenario, one can heal their inner wounding and then be able to use that experience of healing to help others who have similar wounding.
So think of, for example, somebody who was a victim of some kind of an assault, or abuse, or neglect when they were a child, and then in adulthood they are able to counsel, or guide, or be a mentor, or publish information for others who have had a similar experience. That would be the ideal expression of Chiron.
Now, of course, there can be a tendency for people to repress these kinds of experiences or memories. That’s a very common coping mechanism, as is substance abuse as a means of escapism.
Another element to be aware of here too is that people with hard Chironic aspects in their natal chart can draw or attract pain or suffering in a kind of masochistic way where they consciously or subconsciously attract suffering as kind of a means of self-recrimination. There’s always a push-pull. Often, what we experience is a manifestation of what’s going on inside with our own feelings of self-worth and self-respect.
Now, truth be told, I didn’t personally pay a lot of attention to Chiron when I was younger because I sort of had that British stiff-upper-lip attitude to things where I would say, “Oh, get over yourself. Deal with it. Move on.” You know, just get stuff done. Don’t focus on things you can’t change. You know, blah, blah, blah…
And I also had a fairly strong belief that one could transcend their mortal or temporal experience of reality through spirituality. Because I had had many transcendent experiences where you get into a higher state of consciousness. And a lot of our more ego-related issues or concerns simply don’t exist or lose their relevance in that higher state of consciousness.
I’m just speaking for myself. Other people may be able to relate to that, or maybe they can’t. I don’t know, but it’s true for me.
However, I’m an Aries rising, and when Chiron started to transit Aries, which is of course my first house, in 2018, Chiron became prominently obvious in my life. And I was a bit stunned by this, how literally it materialized in my experience and in my life.
And often what happens with Chiron is that other people or situations or circumstances will mirror our Chironic wounding back at us. They will be the catalyst for this aspect of ourselves to get triggered. So when it’s in a cardinal house or on the angles, so to speak, you can’t not see it. It finds you, right?
And it can be stunning because Chiron, like all planets in astrology, has kind of a magnetic quality where it’ll draw, like I said, those kinds of experiences and that awareness to you, even if you’re not trying. It is mind-blowing.
Interestingly, Chiron was discovered on the 1st of November of 1977. And if you’re old enough, you will be aware that it was in the 1970s where psychology and psychological therapy became a trend. So people were seeing therapists, psychologists, people were talking about all that kind of stuff. There were workshops, there were personal development things.
Chiron has kind of a “woe is me” energy about it, where we are victims or victimized. And there was kind of a bit of a tendency for people to wallow in their victimhood. And, you know, there were books, there were TV shows, there were columns in newspapers. There was a whole movement, there was a whole personal development movement that occurred during the 1970s, where people really started to do this sort of self-analysis. Jungian stuff became popular and people talked about it. It was kind of amazing, because these are all Chironic themes.
Prior to then, especially if you go back into the 1950s and prior to then, people didn’t focus or talk about these kinds of things much at all. People did not talk about their feelings openly, and especially if you were a male, you did not show your weakness. Psychoanalysis and stuff like that was more fringy, and people had that kind of attitude of just like, “Oh, get on with it,” you know, stiff upper lip, like I said, attitude towards reality and, you know, stop whining, stop complaining, blah, blah, blah.
So, myself, like I said, I felt like, “Why do I want to wallow or muck around in my suffering? How does that help me? How does that aid me? Am I not just being self-indulgent by doing that? How does wallowing in that accomplish anything?”
And yet, many, many people started to investigate this because, in a lot of ways, our wounding is like our Achilles’ heel. We’ve seen countless people or celebrities, you know, self-destruct at the pinnacle of their career, which is all a reflection of their own inner wounding or unresolved trauma.
Trauma is interesting here because Chiron’s orbit goes from Saturn, which is kind of like cold, hard reality, the authorities and structures of reality, to Uranus, which often can be associated with shocking traumas.
So, like I said, when Chiron transited Aries, it became really obvious to me because people were behaving to me in very Chironic ways and triggering very Chironic things within me, and a lot of it had to do with my personality and my persona.
Judgment isn’t always accurate or fair, but yet people do it to each other all the time. So, I don’t like to talk too much about my own personal stuff, you know, here on YouTube, because like who wants to listen to that?
But let me tell you, it’s been very, very eye-opening, and for quite some time in my readings for clients, I will spend a lot of time talking about Chiron, because it’s very illuminating in terms of showing us where we have shadow work to do, and I have always been a proponent of doing our shadow work.
But, you know, Chiron represents things that are triggering or painful, and where we have wounding, so a lot of people don’t even like to look at it, because it’s triggering, and it’s unpleasant. And yet, if we don’t, especially if we sweep it under the rug, if we don’t, it will disempower us over and over and over again, until we resolve it, clear it, and heal it.
Now, interestingly as well, which I don’t hear a lot of people talk about, you know, I don’t listen to other astrologers anymore. I used to years ago. I stopped doing it because I don’t want to be influenced by other people’s perspectives. I have my own unique way of doing astrology and reading it, and it definitely tends to resonate very strongly with my clients. But like I said, I definitely focus on Chiron, especially depending on how it’s aspected in one’s natal chart, and the house and sign that it’s in, of course.
So, you know, pain and suffering is part of the human experience on earth, for whatever reason. I’m not 100% sure of what purpose it serves, except to maybe make us stronger, more authentic, and more pure, and more powerful. But bad things happen to people on earth all the time, every day. You’re either delusional or extremely poorly informed if you’re not aware of that. There’s all kinds of injustice, and pain, and suffering, and agony, and trauma that occurs on earth all the time. I have had clients tell me things that were, to me, shocking, and I was amazed that they were able to actually survive, and sometimes even go on to thrive.
Of course, I will never divulge anything that a client tells me, because I keep my readings extremely confidential, because I believe that privacy is sacred, and it should be. But yes, we have to look at our wounding, and when it is triggered by Chiron, by transit, either Chiron itself, or other planets transiting to your natal Chiron, is an excellent time to do that, because it will be illuminated, and give you clarity, which then gives you the ability to know where to focus and concentrate in terms of doing your shadow work. So, we should take advantage of Chironic transits, because they are telling us where our wounding exists.
I went off on a tangent about other astrologers and didn’t complete my thought, but what I was going to say is this, is that, to me, and it shows up very, very clearly in my readings for my clients, Chironic wounding is almost always linked to past lives. Underscore that, this is very important. And like I said, I’m not sure I’ve ever heard this stated before, despite the fact that it’s critically important.
So, if you have a Chironic pattern or theme, it may have actually started, you know, centuries or even millennia ago. And what happens is that it’ll continue to show up in your experience from incarnation to incarnation, until you address or heal that wound.
I also personally believe that phobias can be related to past life traumas, and therefore probably Chiron. As well, many people believe that birthmarks are indicative of where we have been physically wounded in past lives. For example, it may indicate a point of puncture. We also have to consider that in ancient times we didn’t have modern medicine and antibiotics, so even if the initial wound wasn’t fatal, a resulting infection very well could be.
And I have had clients who have had those kinds of things validated in past life regressions. And, let’s face it, if you go back into history, reality and the human experience was even more brutal in the past often than it is today. There were all kinds of extremely traumatic things that could happen to people on earth, like really horrible things, which I can’t articulate here because it’ll trigger this episode in the algorithms.
Privately, I can get into more details on certain things, but looking at someone’s astrology chart can tell us a lot about their past life experiences, and especially how it’s aspected and placed in the chart. One needs to be quite intuitive and fairly well versed in the astrology to get into a lot of details about that, but you would be amazed at how much detail we can suss out about that. You have to look at the other planets in points too, right, to complete the picture.
But my point is, is that, like I said, think about something really traumatic that happened to you centuries or millennia ago. It probably relates to some people that you have incarnated with or are having incarnational experiences with in this lifetime.
This pattern, because it’s kind of baked into our psyche or energy, whether we are aware of it or not, it’s in our energy field because it’s not resolved, will then sort of replicate or repeat to some degree, maybe with variations, in this lifetime, typically when we are children.
Like say, for example, you have some kind of, I don’t know, speech impediment or a learning disability, something like that. Maybe you have Chiron in the third or in heart aspect to Mercury and the other kids criticized you or ostracized you or you were an outcast, you weren’t accepted, you were rejected by your peers.
Rejection is often a theme of Chiron, where people don’t love us or appreciate us or they’re critical of us because of who we are, which is total BS, of course, right? People can be really stupid because they judge others based on really dumb things.
But nonetheless, when you’re a child, that can be like really painful to be rejected. Like kids can go to bed at night and cry themselves to sleep because people don’t like them. This is like profoundly unjust and profoundly unfair and profoundly mean, but people experience those kinds of things all the time.
And then that person will then grow up and have to find their own inner strength and their own wisdom and their own path. And they’ll have to find people who actually love and appreciate them and accept them for who they are. So they have a difficult journey to do, but that journey gives them strength because ultimately we shouldn’t care about what other people think, especially if they’re stupid people or judgmental people or unjust people, you know.
So it doesn’t have to be that per se. It could be anything. It could be you were criticized for a piece of artwork that you made when you were five years old and then you subconsciously say to yourself, “Oh, I’ll never make another piece of art again.” And you just shut that down. Maybe you have Chiron in the fifth. Stuff like that happens all the time.
Or there was something about your physical appearance that other people made fun of or didn’t accept or rejected. Maybe you have Chiron in the first, or maybe it was your sexual orientation. Maybe you have Chiron in the eighth. There are so many possible scenarios.
This can be sussed out in the astrology chart remarkably accurately. And in the spiritual community, you do kind of have to watch out a little bit for this idea of transcendence.
I had a very, very, very significant experience in my life back in my early 20s. I got involved in spirituality quite young and I had this experience which involved a tremendous amount of transcendence. I had very, very powerful spiritual experiences. But then something happened in my life and I kind of fell. I had a fall and the fall was excruciatingly painful because I went from a very, very high state of consciousness and awareness back down into reality. And it took me years to recover from that because I hadn’t addressed my own inner weakness or wounding which was then an Achilles heel which tripped me up and I fell.
And what I learned from that was that I have a lot of work to do. I have a lot of healing to do that involves self-love and self-respect and self-forgiveness.
So we cannot fully ascend until we have become whole and integrated and have accepted all aspects of ourselves good and bad and Chiron will show us that.
Now I’m not going into all the mythology around Chiron here. Tons of people have talked about that. You can read about it all you want. I was more interested in producing something here that was more personal and germane and helpful to people on a pragmatic level.
Chiron had moved into Taurus on June 19th of 2026, not that long ago, and it retrograded and retrograded back into Aries on September 17th, which is a few days before I recorded this. It’s going to be in Aries through April 14th of 2027, so next spring, and then of course it will transit Taurus from April 14th of next year, pretty much through the spring of 2034.
I find it interesting that Chiron has been in Aries roughly since 2018, and we’re now at the final stages of that journey of Chiron through Aries, because there’s been a tremendous amount of focus or concentration or discussion about themes dealing with toxic masculinity during this period, 2018. In fact, I think a lot of the whole sort of move to the far right and the MAGA stuff and everything is a bit of a reflection of Chiron transiting Aries.
Aries is the masculine principle, the principle that says “Yeah, I’m just going to do this. I’m going to do X, Y, and Z. It’s about me and my needs, and who am I?” And Chiron shows us how that expression of masculinity is often rooted in trauma or rejection.
So the kind of masculinity we’ve been seeing in a lot of cases has been the wounded expression of Aries. You know, these guys who pretend to be all like hyper-masculine and stuff like that, and yet everyone can see very clearly that they’re actually deeply wounded people with a lot of unresolved trauma and rejection, and it’s painfully obvious that they’re overcompensating.
Like, think about the whole incel thing, right? Like, what is that? That’s Chiron and Aries. That has been a really, really big thing. Just to be clear, it’s not that I don’t sympathize with their plight. What I object to is their hostility and entitlement towards women.
So you’ll see the negative expression of masculinity, which lashes out and is irrational, and is excessive and showy, and domineering, and trying to dominate and control others, and fighting stupid culture wars and stuff like that. That’s a classic example of Chiron transiting Aries.
When I see these kinds of people speaking out or lashing out, it’s obvious that they have issues, psychological issues of some kind. We all do, right? So let’s be fair. But still, if you’re causing harm to other people, that’s crossing a line.
A healthy response to that would be for people to question, you know, like, why do I need to behave this way? What is it about me that makes me feel inadequate or insecure, or that I have to forcibly demonstrate my masculinity just to prove myself to other people to gain their respect? That’s not self-respect. That’s not self-love. That’s acting out of woundedness.
It’s kind of like instead of actually dealing with the root causes, they just keep doubling down, having like a tantrum, because they’re going through an identity crisis, and they don’t know how to cope.
So we have one more stint of this to go through the middle of April of next year, where Chiron is going to be moving into Taurus.
And the sign of Taurus generally is more representative of our values and the things that we value and material objects and situations that we construct for ourselves or acquire to give us a sense of security. It’s interesting because Taurus, or the second house actually, rules things like property, real estate, investments, money, bank accounts, finances, and stuff like that, because we acquire those things to give us a sense of security. And we place a value on them for that reason.
Some of those values are shared, and some aren’t. You know, some people might want to live in the country, another person might want to have a condo in Manhattan that’s worth like 10 million bucks. But it has a materialistic theme in a lot of ways on a mundane level.
We may also see Chiron reflected in the arts when it’s in Taurus. The ruler of Taurus is Venus, and Venus rules the arts, all forms of art and creative self-expression. So that can include drama, theatre, jewellery, fashion, fine art, sculpture, architecture, film, poetry, novels.
But I would think that we will see a kind of angst that appears, especially with the feminine expression of Chiron in Taurus, or angst that pertains to the decimation of the natural world that reflects sort of a dark sorrow or grief around the feminine and nature. Think drab, if that makes any sense.
We’ll probably see this emerge first on the runways, which tend to be kind of like leading indicators of fashion and in music and the performing arts. That should be fascinating.
Many people are already grieving the damage that’s been done to the natural world, especially for younger people who in many ways are facing a bleak future environmentally. So we will become painfully aware of the sorrow and grief around the damage that we have caused to the natural world. And we probably will see this reflected in the natural world itself. The degradation, the wounding, the suffering, the grief around the loss of healthy habitats and species, the toxification and pollution of our environment and our source of sustenance.
And of course, there’s two sides to every coin. So we might actually have to endure or experience the wanton and careless destruction of the natural world, where we have people, organizations, companies who have no compassion or empathy for the natural world and just inflict damage upon it, which causes those of us who are more sensitive and more evolved to have to witness such nihilism.
There’s always two sides to every aspect and planet or point in astrology. There’s the victim and the victimizer, because you can’t have one without the other.
Another thing that this can represent is the harvest. Crops. You know, because what we do is we grow crops starting in the spring, they mature in the summer, and we harvest them in the fall so that we have stockpiles to get through the winter months. Taurus is ruled by Venus, and Venus can represent the harvest.
Think of how, for example, a squirrel will collect nuts and things and stash them away so they can survive the winter. So there could be issues dealing with nature and the harvest and crops, or a lack thereof, or issues that cause people to feel insecure.
And of course, there can also be financial issues too. Like say, for example, you made significant investments or acquisitions like property or something like that, and there’s some kind of substantial shift in the value of that. The loss of value could be quite painful for you. Plus, of course, like I said earlier, more general themes around what is important and what we value.
It’s important to understand, and I have emphasized this, but it’s important to understand that when people get triggered by their wounding, they often act out in ways that we think or that immediately appear to be irrational. People try and overcompensate for their weakness, like in the case of the masculinity stuff I talked about earlier.
They don’t just go like, “Oh, I have these weaknesses and failures. Let’s talk about it. Let’s heal it.” They can instead try and overcompensate or exaggerate to overcome their sense of inadequacy or failure or wounding. So almost like the opposite response.
It can go either way. Some people can react by trying to heal that wound, which is to me a more mature or responsible way of dealing with it. And other people lack that ability or perspective and therefore, like I said, try and overcompensate for it. So they go over the top. And we can expect to see that in Taurus as well, which is like, “This is my stuff. Don’t eff with my stuff. I need this. It’s got to be mine.” You know, things like hoarding or excessive materialism, where it’s going to be challenged. And people can either react by adapting and accepting this or lashing out and overcompensating for it.
Possession, possessiveness, hoarding, over-defensiveness, conflict over property or resources, that kind of thing. It’s going to be quite interesting to see how this plays out.
Mark my words, down the road a few years, what I’m saying will make a lot more sense. It’s a bit abstract right now, but we’re going to see it play out tangibly in the world.
So this shift of Chiron from Aries to Taurus, obviously it has an effect on people who have Aries in their chart substantially or planets or points in Aries. And then when it moves into Taurus for a fairly long time, it’s going to be playing out for people who have significant planets or points in Taurus. Say, for example, you’re a Taurus rising or have Taurus in the seventh, which would be your relationship sector.
Now, of course, Chiron in Taurus is going to be opposing Scorpio and squaring Aquarius and Leo. So the opposition is challenging as well, as are the squares. So you will probably want to pay attention to when transiting Chiron makes those hard aspects by conjunction, opposition, or square to significant planets or points in your natal chart. And of course, the Taurus-Scorpio axis are the money houses. So keep that in mind.
This episode is already really long and there’s way too much there for me to get into here today, but heads up on that.
Chiron is never pleasant. It’s not the kind of stuff that you would naturally want to focus on. Like who wants to really concentrate on suffering and wounding and pain and rejection? It’s not pleasant, but it is a part of our reality. And like I said, that’s indisputable.
So personally, as an Aries rising, I’m really looking forward to getting Chiron out of Aries. I don’t want it in my face all the time.
Another thing that showed up for me a lot during this period was because I was doing a lot of construction and renovations, that kind of work, you know, I would just go out in my work clothes all the time. Like, I don’t give a crap what people think. And a lot of this time was in the city, okay, it’s not like I was in the country where it’s kind of normal. But I had a lot of experiences during that time where people would judge me based on my appearance. And I’m quite intuitive and sensitive, so I can pick this up. Right.
But, you know, I don’t really care. Like, why would I care about appeasing people who are really superficial and shallow. Obviously, I have zero interest in people like that. But still, it’s something I experienced quite a bit when I would go into stores and stuff like that. And you can just tell you get a vibe off people that they just judge you based on how you look. In fact, after a while, I kind of took it as a badge of honor, right? Because like I said, why would I care about people like that?
When people do that, they’re not just casting a false judgment on other people. They’re perpetuating that stereotype. So it’s actually even worse.
So that’s an example of Chiron transiting my first. Judgment, rejection, wounding, not being accepted for who I am based on superficial reasons. First being my physical appearance and me as I present in the world.
Many, many years ago, a spiritual teacher of mine said that the Christ could be standing right next to most people and they wouldn’t even know it. Now, I’m not comparing myself to Christ, but you get the point. Most people are really not coming from a very evolved place, most human beings. And that’s a bit hard to accept, but it’s true.
And while Chiron was transiting Aries, I had a lot of run-ins with people that were really, really weird. Some of them I think were probably linked to past life encounters with these people because they seem quite irrational. Like, why is this person acting this way to me? That would be my response, right? And why do I care?
You know, there can be a lot of emotional drama, which can be really exhausting when you’re dealing with other people. In my case, a lot of it dealt with women, which would be the opposite house from my Ascendant, of course. Just like really weird stuff. That kind of drama can be just really exhausting.
So like, from my perspective, I’m more like, I got other things to do. I don’t want to be dealing with or concentrating on this, but you don’t really have a choice. You can either sweep it under the rug and let it fester, or you can approach it more proactively.
So I do a lot and have done a lot of work in my spiritual practice, which I do every day, to try and clear as much of those kinds of energies as possible and get to the root of them. So when I’m doing this kind of stuff, I’ll have like dreams and visions or insights that pertain to my Chironic wounding. And my Chiron is in the 12th.
So my Chiron deals with spirituality and my connection to the source of creation and spirituality. Like, “God, why did you do this to me?” kind of questions. “I didn’t deserve it.” “What is the point of suffering?” “Why did you make me suffer?” “I’m pissed off.” “I resent that.”
And at the same time, I want to connect to the divine, and yet I don’t understand why it tortured me, in a nutshell. I could go on at great length about that, but that’s, in a nutshell, my kind of, like, Chironic stuff that I have to deal with.
And also, Chiron and the Twelfth can make one very aware or conscious of Chironic wounding on the collective mundane level, which I definitely am. Like, I can see and feel the wounding and the trauma that’s being inflicted upon people around the world, which is why I talk about a lot of social and geopolitical stuff and things like that, and I have an interest in it. It’s totally understandable for me. But anyway, I digress.
As I was working on this, I was reflecting on, like, what did I learn or get out of this experience? So far, anyway. And I think that the most important lesson that I’ve learned from this is now I have a greater degree of compassion and empathy for other people who are going through really challenging or difficult experiences. And that shows up a lot for me with my readings for clients. It’s really helped me to empathize with them and to discuss and bring to light some of their own trauma and Chironic issues. It’s been very powerful in that respect, and I take it as a great honor to be able to play that role when I’m doing readings for people.
In short, people with prominent Aries in their chart, this cycle is almost over, but we still have another seven months to go. Seems like an eternity. And people with prominent Taurus or Taurus placements are going to have to deal with a lot of Chironic experiences more prominently in their life going forward through 2034. It’s not pleasant, unfortunately, which I guess explains why it took me so long to actually get around to doing this.
I don’t know if this is helpful. It was a bit of stream of consciousness. It’s not very structured. I’m trying to think of what else I want to say.
Chiron is very, very personal and when I’m doing a reading for a client, I can get into like a lot of detail about this Chironic stuff that can be, like I said, remarkably precise and meaningful and relevant. It’s a bit hard to talk about it more in general terms because I don’t have that knowledge or information, but I would encourage you to pay attention to it and to not ignore it or, like I said, sweep it under the rug, because it won’t go away by itself.
The only thing that you can do to clear yourself of that experience is to heal it and that requires a lot of forgiveness. Forgiveness of self and forgiveness of others and compassion is a huge part of this process. Compassion for yourself and compassion for others because we’re all flawed and we’re all wounded.
Everybody has Chiron somewhere and everybody has had some kind of Chironic experience. No matter how perfect they look, I can assure you that people have been deeply wounded in some way at some time in their life.
And there are some very prominent and very powerful people in this world right now who have deep and profound Chironic wounding and it’s fairly self-evident when you look at their what seems often to be irrational or inscrutable behavior. It is all around us in ways that it wasn’t for our ancestors because it wasn’t until 1977 that Chiron was identified and defined.
Let me know if this was helpful or what you think about this. It’s fairly long. Like I said, it’s a stream of consciousness. I don’t know how else to do this. I think it’s the best way to do it.
I’ve had some remarkable and constructive experiences in readings, many of them in fact, talking about Chironic stuff and how it’s aspected in people’s charts. It has played a very significant role in my readings for a long time. We can gain tremendous insights into ourselves through studying it and understanding it.
For more detail, check the episode description for other episodes or articles that are related or that I mentioned.
And if you’re interested in a reading with me, I’ll put a link to that as well.
Many sincere thanks to everyone who supports me, especially my YouTube members and astrology clients.
Thank you very much.
Take care, all the best, and I’ll talk to you again soon.
Bye for now.
End episode transcript.
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